Comments on mimi in NY: The American DREAM

You know, the CIS (formerly INS) have a rule about...

2005-04-26T18:58:00.000-04:00

You know, the CIS (formerly INS) have a rule about that, in that if you marry and use that as your basis for your claim, the American partner is financially responsible for the non-american for a period of 10 years after the claim, whether the marriage survives or not.
Pretty big favour to ask of anyone.

Great post, great thread. The marriage thing, thou...

2005-04-26T10:50:00.000-04:00

Great post, great thread. The marriage thing, though, leaves me confused - probably cause I am a guy, and insensitive by definition. I understand why someone wouldn't want to marry for papers - love cannot be hurried - but why not a fictive marriage, to one of your friends, if they would be willing?

Hey Mimi,This is a thoroughly engrossing and brill...

2005-04-22T08:23:00.000-04:00

Hey Mimi,
This is a thoroughly engrossing and brilliant post in a blog thats full of them. That you humanize so many of the people we take for granted and pretty much ignore on a daily basis tells me you're someone of great integrity. Having been involved with someone in the past who is muslim and illegal and having a sister-in-law and a step mother who are both from other countries I thought I was pretty well informed. But you have further opened my eyes. Keep it up you have a lot of people out here pulling for you. I'll definitely keep reading.

Did you guys ever see one of the episodes of the C...

2005-04-19T13:58:00.000-04:00

Did you guys ever see one of the episodes of the Chapelle show, where there was the Grand Master (or whatever- don't totally remember the episode) of the KKK was an old black man who was blind? In the meetings they kept the hood on him, and then one day the Klansmen finally wanted to see who he really was- revealing a black man that didn't know that he himself was black. "Get rid of those negroes that are plaguing the white supremacy!" he said.

Someday Red, you'll come to realize you're just as brown as us illegals, despite whatever ideas you've told yourself over the years to erase that fact.

revealing what's covered by the dust of hypocrisy,...

2005-04-19T11:15:00.000-04:00

revealing what's covered by the dust of hypocrisy, I support you 100%. I'll be a NYer soon and I'm glad to see that I may find people like you out there.

Great article, really. It should be published in a...

2005-04-19T10:21:00.000-04:00

Great article, really. It should be published in a newspaper!

I was reading some of your blog and thought you might it find interesting to read a book that I am just reading. It's exactly about this issue, illegal immigration (in California) and the arrogance and indifference of the white American citizens who live there (and who consider themselves very liberal, by the way) towards the illegal's problems.
The book is called 'The tortilla curtain', written by a guy named T.C. Boyle. Read it or not, but I suggest you do.

Are you FUCKING kidding me??!?!?!??!OMG, I don't e...

2005-04-19T09:47:00.000-04:00

Are you FUCKING kidding me??!?!?!??!

OMG, I don't even know where to start.

Mimi writes this incredibly poignant and thought provoking piece and this fucker red stater comes on and spouts shit?

Dude, you did not want to fuck with me today of all days.

Number one, you obtuse moron, how dare you call yourself a Christian?!?!? Your very post is the farthest thing from an example of Christianity. As a Christian myself, I demand you stop speaking for and presenting yourself as Christian(s).

When you were in Jordan, besides your exaggeration of every Arab man asking you to pimp your fellow American women, how were you treated? Were you not a guest in their country? Did you not partake of their hospitality and their culture?

So somehow, because your mother whored herself for citizenship to the US, thereby making you an American as Amy so aptly puts it "by accident of birth", you have the rights and self proclaimed privilege of going abroad to study and travel but would bar the citizens of the same countries offering you hospitality and letting your racist ass in from enjoying the reciprocal privilege??

And why do you have issue with the Jordanian men whoring themselves for US citizenship when your mother did the same. Because really, regardless of the compensation, if you give yourself in exchange for something you want or need you are whoring yourself. Marrying for a US citizenship, your mother exchanged herself in full for a US citizenship. Being someone's wife includes a sexual relationship. In fact sex is a requirement, since if the marriage isn't consumated it can be annulled. So in exchange for sex among other things, your mother got a US citizenship. how ironic.

Americans raped, sodomized and humiliated so many Iraqis in their UNLAWFUL invasion of the country, but you don't have any problem with that because you think they were Muslims or because as long as they weren't Americans it was okay with you. Well, a lot of Iraqis are Christians, so you can be sure that there were Christians who were tortured by Americans also.

And let me tell you that as Christians we aren't so freaking spanky clean perfect either. But if you were any kind of a Christian, you'd know that.

Yuo fault the Muslims for 9/11 and want to ban their asses from the country. But on the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma bombing are you willing to speak up and ban white American men from the US since Tomothy McVeigh was one and his sick ass was responsible for that atrocity?

The US was not founded by Christians. it was founded and built by people, some good, some bad, some white, some brown, a whole heap human rights violators too.

Your response to Amy that you questioned her choice not to marry was FULL OF SHIT. You never once stated that it was about American men being good enough and if you think any of us are stupid enough to believe you, you better have another snort.

What does Amy have against marriage? Is it that she hasn't found the right man, or doesn't want to get married to become a citizen?

Mimi, my mother married my father and became a citizen. Is Amy too good for something like that? I do feel bad about her situation, but honestly, she's lucky to even be in the US!

So, if whoring one's self was good enough for your mom, it should be good enough for Amy?

You questioned whether it was because Amy had not found the right man or if it was because she didn't want to marry for citizenship. Well you pointed hood wannabe, I don't see any reference to American men not being good enough in those questions, not that they were any of your business anyways. And, if you had any sense in the empty space between your ears, you would have understood as the rest of us did, that Amy was not willing to whore herself through one of life's most sacred rituals for a piece of paper and rights that should, by rights and all things logical, already belong to her.

Now do me a favour and go see if any of the pointed hood brothers will accept your brown ass. i think not. In fact, they'd as soon hang you from a tree than talk to you regardless of whether or not you spout their crap. In fact, I'm sure they'd find it laughable that you believe in the same things they do, but don't understand that they include you as the enemy.

In fact, do us all a favour and give them your home address, you bigoted fuck!

Red Stater said: "Seeing as how I am an evil bigot...

2005-04-19T01:46:00.000-04:00

Red Stater said: "Seeing as how I am an evil bigot with blood on my hands, could you tell me what I'm supposed to think about that?"

I guess you red staters have to have each other's backs, one way or another. My recommendation is that while you're giving good 'ol George a blow job, just remember to stick your finger in his ass when he looks "ready." Do it for your country.

I'm reading this from work, It's very early in the...

2005-04-19T01:28:00.000-04:00

I'm reading this from work, It's very early in the morning and I wasn't fully awake when I started reading, but I think Red_stater's comments have managed to wake me up! Must be the blood pressure from reading such "clever" and "Christian" and "justified" opinions!
Ok, I have to have a cigarette now!

Mimi, good luck with the newspapers!

hats off!!!... i really admire your courage!

2005-04-19T01:14:00.000-04:00

hats off!!!... i really admire your courage!

LOL.I get that a lot from women. I wonder why?

2005-04-18T23:43:00.000-04:00

LOL.

I get that a lot from women. I wonder why?

Red- If you call yourself an American, then YES, I...

2005-04-18T23:37:00.000-04:00

Red- If you call yourself an American, then YES, I really am too good to be marrying people like yourself.

Holy cow. I guess I riled some feathers. Heh heh.O...

2005-04-18T23:16:00.000-04:00

Holy cow. I guess I riled some feathers. Heh heh.

OK, Amy, you are correct in that you shouldn't marry to obtain citizenship. I somehow got the impression from Mimi's post that you didn't think American men were good enough for you. I was wrong on that point. Peace?

Also, I spent a summer in Jordan studying Arabic. Arab men would regularly come up to me and other students asking for help in finding an American woman they could marry so that they could come to the US.

Seeing as how I am an evil bigot with blood on my hands, could you tell me what I'm supposed to think about that?

Hey Red Stater. I have neither found "the right m...

2005-04-18T22:51:00.000-04:00

Hey Red Stater. I have neither found "the right man," AND don't want to get married for the sake of citizenship. What do I have against marriage? Nothing! But if I don't feel like I've met someone special enough, why should I get married? Are you suggesting I further break more of the rules that your country has set up for people like me?

And while I'm at it-- why are you even asking about my personal relationships? Because YOU'RE the citizen and I'm not, does that mean you're allowed to intrude on my personal life, and make rules that affect the very way I live?

I think I'm allowed to define what kind of life I'm allowed to have, as you think you do... oh but wait you get to make up the rules because you are here by accident of birth and would not know one thing about what it means to live in a place yet not have a voice when people are making rules that directly affect your very existence.

Or perhaps you do. Did you say that you're half African-American and half Filipino? I wish YOU would go back where you came from. Let's think about that. Your very existence in America resulted from your immigrant mother and your black father who was brought here generations ago from a different continent. Neither of which are originally from the US-- only American Indians here originally, right? Or do red staters read different history books, stories of entitlement and reverse racism in your case?

Do you come on here, faceless and protected by anonymity, in order to spout the crap that you've been fed because your reality you exist in would be too difficult to deal with otherwise? I mean, a mulatto AND an oriental in the middle of Oklahoma- I'm surprised your neighbors are not already lynching your ass!

I'd like to know how your mother feels about having a child who basically thinks he'd like to suck some big Bush cock. And I would like to know how your father feels about a son who believes he is entitled to the greatness of a country that was built upon the slavery of his own ancestors.

And isn't marriage meant to be sacred Red? How can...

2005-04-18T22:33:00.000-04:00

And isn't marriage meant to be sacred Red? How can you ask 'why' someone doesn't want to get married? Because they are intelligent enough to realise that marriage is a life commitment, not something you do so you can have sex 'legally' nor function as a 'legal citizen'. Doh. And they wonder why the divorce rate in this country is 52%...

The only way this world would unite and realize we...

2005-04-18T21:08:00.000-04:00

The only way this world would unite and realize we are one, is if tomorrow Aliens from outer space showed up. This would then give us humans something or someone else to discriminate against!

As for RED you hipocritacal piece of shit.
Your mom's a fuckin' immigrant and spouting this hatred for illegals. I'm gonna call your mommy and tattle on you, then after she removes her foot from your ass, tell her she doesn't belong her cause she's a foreigner.

Could you imagine if after Oklahoma City 10 years ago all WHITE people became SUSPECT. I can, and you'd be at the top of the 10 most wanted douchebags.

Anyway, back to my post on the Arizona boarder.

Peace

Have you guys heard of the detention centres that ...

2005-04-18T21:06:00.000-04:00

Have you guys heard of the detention centres that we have in place in Australia for 'illegals' and refugees. We're basically looking at desperate people being locked behind barbed wire fences in the middle of fucking no where. Each illegal has to be 'processed' until it can be determined if they have the 'requirements' of being an Aussie citizen. This 'process' can and has taken years for a lot of people. We have soooo much space in this massive country and our population is only just over 20 million. Wtf is this world coming to really? I'm sure this is the type of situation that RED STATER would provide....
(Sorry everyone, just needed to give you a little rant from my part of the world...)

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2005-04-18T20:17:00.000-04:00

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The American empire is in decline. Hell, western ...

2005-04-18T20:10:00.000-04:00

The American empire is in decline. Hell, western civilization as we know it is in decline. There is not much we can do short of a major shift in global consciousness, away from greed, toward a realization that we are all ONE. Will that happen in time to avert the catastrophe? I doubt it, given the behavior of the human species throughout history.
The ego and greed are too great, even in the face of impending decline. Unbelievable!! But true. Yes, Red, all that you believe is meaningless in the face of the coming crisis. Your religion will not help you. Sorry, thats the brutal truth. Peace

Whooooo Red, you're spouting off some scary stuff ...

2005-04-18T19:57:00.000-04:00

Whooooo Red, you're spouting off some scary stuff there. Its thinking like that and the rise of the Christian Right that is gonna bring this country down.
This economy is absolutely dependent on labor from
illegal immigrants. Taking jobs away from Americans? Give me a break man. You don't believe that do you? Regardless of the immigration "problem", this country and its economy is sitting on a foundation of cards. We are going down my friend.
Bush and his ilk are expediting the fall. Check out
the issue of peak oil. Google that and educate yourself. You won't be the same.
Great writing Mimi.

Absolutely fabulous ! Mimi in Nuevo Yorke! I just ...

2005-04-18T19:21:00.000-04:00

Absolutely fabulous ! Mimi in Nuevo Yorke! I just LOVED reading your post! I felt like I was in the 60’s again! Blazing talent girl! You go GIRL!...It’s just so pissing off to me that all this is true! America the “Dream” is still being born! God ! I have to stop with the exclamation thing! But your “open letter” to America just has to show up somewhere in the mainstream media! I’m going to shoot the next exclamation point myself! BANG! All the good it does. I was borned up American and I know it’s special. But red_stater is a retard. You know red_stater, I get the impression you’re a “he”, but you could be a “she” ,because I’ve known some pretty vicious ones of them myself, personal. Even jesus wouldn’t forgive your shit, man. Get ye’ to the Unitarians! >*))))><

The American dream as nightmare. Superb piece of j...

2005-04-18T19:11:00.000-04:00

The American dream as nightmare. Superb piece of journalism Mimi. Very impressive indeed.

Good for you mate. x

'Muslims' are not a 'race' you cretin. 'Muslims' a...

2005-04-18T18:58:00.000-04:00

'Muslims' are not a 'race' you cretin. 'Muslims' are people who have chosen to follow a particular religion and way of life, which like most religions, has at its centre devotion, avoidance of sin and bettering oneself as a person. To say something as glaringly ignorant as 'all muslims must leave America' shows how downright stupid you are. A tiny minority of muslim extremists does not give you, a narrow- minded Christian crackpot, the authority, right or justification to make such a bigoted and disgraceful post as I just read. You oviously have no concept that this world is comprised of different people, some good, some bad, and their religious affiliation, skin color and nationality is not a bearing on their moral character or propensity to terrorism. As a white, English, middle class, non religious single female, it's highly likely that I am more likely to come and kick you in the balls than the 'dangerous darkie' from Bangladesh off to the mosque at sunrise. Educate yourself in the ways of the world Red. Get out there and see how darned lucky you are to be able to spout off your shit without someone throwing slurs over your religion of choice, and judging you by a radical, disturbed minority.

Hang on, you are the radical, disturbed minority.

Mimi, I'm a USA citizen and all i can think of is ...

2005-04-18T17:55:00.000-04:00

Mimi, I'm a USA citizen and all i can think of is how to get the hell outta this country before it all goes to hell.
Why'd you leave England considering the political climate here, I'd love to hear that story.

Red, your friend died for America. All Americans, ...

2005-04-18T17:45:00.000-04:00

Red, your friend died for America. All Americans, of all races, colours, sexual preferences, religeons, genders and any other catagory you care to mention. If I am called upon to fight for my country, I don't go to fight for the Christian section, the white section or any other sub-division. That's an abominable thing you said. I pity you and your narrow mindedness.